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thankfully the voters in the state of california pass that allowing us not to move to 10 furlough days. that would be tragic for the students. for me the school continues to be a priority. it's a priority for our district and our city and many families. and unfortunately we made i commitment to the class of 2014-15, not just sfusd but something as a city. and to allow our students in our first two classes not to graduate at these alarming numbers. and particularly in the african-american and latino community would be a travesty. and i am certain that the district here on out would be committed to reallocate that the classes after 14 and 15 would have a different structure and set up of the budget. that decreases every year unfortunately. so i am going to make a motion to move this forward with recommendation. >> thank you, a motion to move forward with recommendation. supervisor oblos. >> thank you, i will second this motion and speaking as someone who has worked in the school district as a counselor and has parents in the school district. has children in the school district and is a p
thankfully the voters in the state of california pass that allowing us not to move to 10 furlough days. that would be tragic for the students. for me the school continues to be a priority. it's a priority for our district and our city and many families. and unfortunately we made i commitment to the class of 2014-15, not just sfusd but something as a city. and to allow our students in our first two classes not to graduate at these alarming numbers. and particularly in the african-american and...
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which i whies berkeley, san joÉe and other california cities have their own public nudity restriction beyond the if there were already laws in place to address this situation, i would not have introduced this legislation. public nudity, currently, is not -- is legal in san francisco, other than in our parks, port, and in restaurants. there's been a suggestion that we should use lewd behavior laws, particularly the indecent exposure provisions of the california penal code. i don't agree with that. i think that using lewd behavior laws is problematic and ineffective. first of all, there are going to be a lot of borderline cases about whether something is lewd or not lewd and you're putting a police officer in a terrible position of trying to determine is this person a little bit aroused or not aroused, is that adornment on the person's genitals lewd or not lewd, did he shake his genitals a little too vigorously to draw attention. no police officer should make that determination and to be blunt no police officer will. if addition if left with the choice of only charging someone with inde
which i whies berkeley, san joÉe and other california cities have their own public nudity restriction beyond the if there were already laws in place to address this situation, i would not have introduced this legislation. public nudity, currently, is not -- is legal in san francisco, other than in our parks, port, and in restaurants. there's been a suggestion that we should use lewd behavior laws, particularly the indecent exposure provisions of the california penal code. i don't agree with...
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one of the lowest per capita funding for students as a state and san francisco, within the state of california, and we're hard-pressed to make sure our schools are well funded. i believe whatever we can give to the school district is going to be utilized to help improve educational experiences. we have a good plan for how this is going to be used. i think it's a worthy plan, worthy services for youth that desperately need greater opportunity in life. i will be supporting this when it comes forward but there are so many intangibles that the school district provides us as a city that cannot be counted in any way. >> president chiu: supervisor kim. >> supervisor kim: i'll try to keep my comments brief. i want to say i find this conversation incredibly exciting and i'm glad we as a board are talking about what it needs to have a true city-school partnership. i think it's important for us as a city to have a discussion about what it costs to run schools. i had the opportunity to sit on the first citizens advisory committee when prop h was created in march of 2004. you know, we fully funded prop h a
one of the lowest per capita funding for students as a state and san francisco, within the state of california, and we're hard-pressed to make sure our schools are well funded. i believe whatever we can give to the school district is going to be utilized to help improve educational experiences. we have a good plan for how this is going to be used. i think it's a worthy plan, worthy services for youth that desperately need greater opportunity in life. i will be supporting this when it comes...
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have a 17-200 component, so i am is suing in both the name of the city in the name of the people in california. supervisor kim: that is also good news. the last question i had is -- i noticed you are projecting increases from requests from police, fire, public works, and the board of supervisors. i know that we give you all a lot of work, but i also want to be cognizant of us working within our means as well. i am curious as to how we can control some of that. some of that we cannot help. when we are souter when the fire department is sued, those are things we need to respond to. i want to do as much work as possible, but i also want to be cognizant of how we impact this. >> thank you for the question, supervisor. i want folks to have an understanding of something, and i know that, unfortunately, all of you are well to aware of it, and that is, especially tthose who have been here for a longer period of time. when i started, we did not have any of our clients really on a budget. so what we did over the course of the last several years -- from my perspective, you can see how we spend our money.
have a 17-200 component, so i am is suing in both the name of the city in the name of the people in california. supervisor kim: that is also good news. the last question i had is -- i noticed you are projecting increases from requests from police, fire, public works, and the board of supervisors. i know that we give you all a lot of work, but i also want to be cognizant of us working within our means as well. i am curious as to how we can control some of that. some of that we cannot help. when...
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when i file an affirmative case and i seek to the penalties and i sue in the name of california, that money can only be used for consumer protection efforts that are initiated by my office. that is precisely why i am trying to be created here, to have a unit that will ultimately allow us to be self-funding, and take additional responsibility from the general fund that you're giving us now and have historically given. that is something that would be worth pursuing over the course of the next several years. i have had discussions with the mayor's office about that and they have been supportive of a pilot plan on that. that would be the one major initiative but i would say is a trend that i would like to pursue. supervisor chu: to be clear, you mentioned five new positions be requested for the city attorney's office, three of which relate to redevelopment agency work, and then the two for the consumer protection unit? >> correct. supervisor chu: and then with regard to some of the other areas where we ask departments to respond, it sounds like you do not have capital programs coming forw
when i file an affirmative case and i seek to the penalties and i sue in the name of california, that money can only be used for consumer protection efforts that are initiated by my office. that is precisely why i am trying to be created here, to have a unit that will ultimately allow us to be self-funding, and take additional responsibility from the general fund that you're giving us now and have historically given. that is something that would be worth pursuing over the course of the next...
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my name is jim mcdonald, i'm the chief of the long beach, california, police department. i'm in my 31st year in policinge i spent 29 years with the los angeles police department prior to going to longpo beach. it's certainly an honor for me to be able to sit on this panel ande be able to serve and be an to bring a police perspective to this issue.ve. my hope is we'll be able to come away with an honest, straight fard approach to children's exposure to violence. it's a cycle we've all seen that goes generation to generation. we're not able to address thatgs in silos, even with the best of intentions as so often we've tried to do. this task force brings a multidisciplinary examination to the issue, and we have the opportunity to be able to heare witnesses from throughout thebu nation and hear different ways of dealing with it, differentg issues, maybe some best practices that haven't beent spread throughout the country, and i'm hopeful that we'll be able to come away with a product at the end of the day that we can present to the attorney general that will become a blueprin
my name is jim mcdonald, i'm the chief of the long beach, california, police department. i'm in my 31st year in policinge i spent 29 years with the los angeles police department prior to going to longpo beach. it's certainly an honor for me to be able to sit on this panel ande be able to serve and be an to bring a police perspective to this issue.ve. my hope is we'll be able to come away with an honest, straight fard approach to children's exposure to violence. it's a cycle we've all seen that...
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affirming certification by the planning commission of the final environmental impact report for the california pacific medical center's long range development plan. item 13 a motion reversing the certification. item 14 is a motion directing preparation of findings reversing the certification. >> president chiu: colleagues you may have heard discussions between the city and cpmc have recommenced recently. at this time this is nothing yet to report so i'd like to entertain a motion to continue these items to december 11. >> so moved. >> president chiu: motion by supervisor campos, seconded by supervisor farrell. without objection that shall be the case. madam clerk, why don't we call items 15 and 39. >> clerk calvillo: item 15 an ordinance reducing footage requirements for efficiency building units pursuant to california health and safety code. item 39 is an ordinance amending the planning code regarding efficiency dwelling units with the numerical cap and open common space requirements. this item was considered by the land use and economic development committee on november 19 and was forwarded
affirming certification by the planning commission of the final environmental impact report for the california pacific medical center's long range development plan. item 13 a motion reversing the certification. item 14 is a motion directing preparation of findings reversing the certification. >> president chiu: colleagues you may have heard discussions between the city and cpmc have recommenced recently. at this time this is nothing yet to report so i'd like to entertain a motion to...
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we learned that san francisco has the highest rate of vehicle pedestrian collisions in the state of california, our rate that is higher than tokyo, london, other major cities. a costs are taxpayers every time we go to the hospital. we can do better. other cities are doing better than we are. that is an important issue we have the highest rate in the city, and you're probably higher than any other city. " we have spent on pedestrian safety over the last four years is close to $13 million. >> how to balance the needs of the district compared to the city? supervisor kim: it is interesting representing a district and a collection of neighborhoods. for me, it is interesting because i represent the city of san francisco. i mean you represent those who live in the district. i care very deeply about what is going on in terms of racial tension between asian and african american communities in the bayview or whether we're talking about muni were talking about public safety issues in other neighborhoods -- i think it is important for me to support the issue's going around the neighborhood. the neighborho
we learned that san francisco has the highest rate of vehicle pedestrian collisions in the state of california, our rate that is higher than tokyo, london, other major cities. a costs are taxpayers every time we go to the hospital. we can do better. other cities are doing better than we are. that is an important issue we have the highest rate in the city, and you're probably higher than any other city. " we have spent on pedestrian safety over the last four years is close to $13 million....
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>> tonight three inmates may soon be walking the streets once again thanks to california voters. ÷x#?fther half hour >>> election is over but there is little time to celebrate. the country heading for another crisis. awbc 7 sus snus here now with the booming -- looming financial cliff. >> in attempting to deal with its deficit congress put into place these spending cuts that killwill kick in at the end of the year. cuts could force the economy back into a recession. so called fiscal cliff looming at the end of the year, leaders from both parties say they're working together. >> and i'm confident that he and i. >> compromise is not a dirty word. >> if congress fails to act on a deal, automatic spending cuts and tax increases will take affect costing average american household about $3700. >> that would imperil the economy. saying both sides put off working on a deal until after the election there. is little time to findizñ a compromise. >> i think in the interim the president is going to work with run republicans to create a patch. >> long term republicans and democrats will hav
>> tonight three inmates may soon be walking the streets once again thanks to california voters. ÷x#?fther half hour >>> election is over but there is little time to celebrate. the country heading for another crisis. awbc 7 sus snus here now with the booming -- looming financial cliff. >> in attempting to deal with its deficit congress put into place these spending cuts that killwill kick in at the end of the year. cuts could force the economy back into a recession. so...
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thankfully the voters in the state of california pass that allowing us not to move to 10 furlough days. that would be tragic for the students. for me the school continues to be a priority. it's a priority for our district and our city and many families. and unfortunately we made i commitment to the class of 2014-15, not just sfusd but something as a ty
thankfully the voters in the state of california pass that allowing us not to move to 10 furlough days. that would be tragic for the students. for me the school continues to be a priority. it's a priority for our district and our city and many families. and unfortunately we made i commitment to the class of 2014-15, not just sfusd but something as a ty
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my parents raised me in southern california, and i grew up in the restaurant business. they had a small restaurant at the time, and i was there every weekend working, and it taught me the value of working hard and what it meant to be part of a small business, a small family, and an immigrant family at that. growing up in an atmosphere in being impacted by the los angeles riots when it did occur. we were always worried watching the news to see whether or not the restaurant would be looted, whether it would go up in fire, so it was something that was a big concern and worry for my family at the time. i remember thinking even at that age how important it was to consider what the economics were in communities, whether people had or felt that they had opportunities or did not have opportunities, and what role it was that government played in those outcomes. >> [inaudible] supervisor chu: that is what really put me on the path to public policy. so i pursued public policy both at occidental college where i went to school as an undergrad, and also uc berkeley where i pursued pu
my parents raised me in southern california, and i grew up in the restaurant business. they had a small restaurant at the time, and i was there every weekend working, and it taught me the value of working hard and what it meant to be part of a small business, a small family, and an immigrant family at that. growing up in an atmosphere in being impacted by the los angeles riots when it did occur. we were always worried watching the news to see whether or not the restaurant would be looted,...
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br voing snish language borrowers in california who are maybe a little t moreir -- that ane have had oth cases in now, ae reach out to legal services to community honest businesses who don't want to be the competitive disadvantage from the crooked ones to try to come up with more cases in the area, we'll be doing it. >> two things, well, three things first of all, congresswoman, lee. first of all, i happen to live in your district for a long time so i know what problems you're facing. >> thank you. >> that said, several things, first of all, i think it is probably -- and you know this, we're not doing minorities any favors by getting them out of their houses into houses that they can't afford. we have discovered that in the compu care case whenever we brought that. and that was partially owned by the naacp as a matter of fact. we were aware of that at the time. and we told them that if people wereecau of fraud, we were going to clamp county on that and we did. we returned a lot of money to consumers as a result of that fraud. that said, i think probably the biggest problem that we ha
br voing snish language borrowers in california who are maybe a little t moreir -- that ane have had oth cases in now, ae reach out to legal services to community honest businesses who don't want to be the competitive disadvantage from the crooked ones to try to come up with more cases in the area, we'll be doing it. >> two things, well, three things first of all, congresswoman, lee. first of all, i happen to live in your district for a long time so i know what problems you're facing....
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amtrak is extremely important to california. we have three of the top five busiest corridors are in our california area. two of them are supported totally by the state, but the shoreliner is not -- i see there are some cuts coming through and i'm going to be looking at very closely because it has $2.8 million ridership. all three are state support services program, and as has been stated, the vitality must be supported. for the straight sported services program. it's important to all states, especially california, we are a donor state. because it gives more options to commuters and many inner city travelers while reducing highway congestion pollution. california has been at the forefront of reduction of pollution in cars and several other areas. the california transportation commission is voicing their opinion on -- i talked to transportation secretary brian kelly, deputy secretary brian annis, and rail division manager on how they view amtrak's work with california and cal trans. they are concerned with changes to state support
amtrak is extremely important to california. we have three of the top five busiest corridors are in our california area. two of them are supported totally by the state, but the shoreliner is not -- i see there are some cuts coming through and i'm going to be looking at very closely because it has $2.8 million ridership. all three are state support services program, and as has been stated, the vitality must be supported. for the straight sported services program. it's important to all states,...
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that means the company california have to send the taxpayer and to maine and oliver. i then told that's a very difficult implementation, no? >> you could just log into software that's already available that does the work. a father. >> at 12 billion range. >> which would be a damned. olivia. >> the total in the children's budget papers that you can find any urban institute website, total federal expenditures and tax expenditures on kids is something that 440 billion on the medicaid. 10 or 20 billion isn't an important amount of money. it's not like keeps k-12 education. this is exceeded my expectations, the practical idea in the first three minutes -- [laughter] epic to come back to two obstacles. one obstacle that congressman kolbe raised and one that charles kolb race. we have to fix impediments verse. actually, i do slightly different reaction to that. one is the thinking of those are much expert than i am, which was sort of the sense that bob is right and of course i think he is, about the urgency, we can't necessarily wait to have the plan and to get started on it
that means the company california have to send the taxpayer and to maine and oliver. i then told that's a very difficult implementation, no? >> you could just log into software that's already available that does the work. a father. >> at 12 billion range. >> which would be a damned. olivia. >> the total in the children's budget papers that you can find any urban institute website, total federal expenditures and tax expenditures on kids is something that 440 billion on...
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imagine san francisco with the highest performing large urban district in the state of california. our test scores and the last 11 years have done wonderful things. and we're very proud of the last two years. we know that this year we will get the same results. that is that we're actually closing the achievement gap for african-american, latino, and pacific islander students here. [applause] and that is really exciting and great, but the part that has been missing for us is that -- the constant thing that keeps me up at night is that i sometimes believe we are educating kids for a world that no longer exists. think about it. we all talk about the good old days. first of all, they were not that good. the good old days are right now, young people. do not listen to as older people telling you about theu good old days abouth- -- about the good old days. no, it has never been better than it is today. in spite of this recession we're going through -- hey, we're going to get over that. you're going to have a brighter, a better future than anybody else in this room has ever had. it is obvi
imagine san francisco with the highest performing large urban district in the state of california. our test scores and the last 11 years have done wonderful things. and we're very proud of the last two years. we know that this year we will get the same results. that is that we're actually closing the achievement gap for african-american, latino, and pacific islander students here. [applause] and that is really exciting and great, but the part that has been missing for us is that -- the constant...
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the asian coalition, the chinese christian union, the community partners, voters of san francisco and california, the students, the faculty, the hilton, financial district, chinatown community youth center, ccsf foundation and also the chinatown rotary club who have for the first time have given two scholarships to our students at the chinatown north beach campus. i am sure that we missed, there are so many people that have been supporting the chinatown north beach campus. it took a community to build this campus and i'm sure that we missed so many people that we have to thank tonight and if we are standing here, i'm pretty sure you want us to get on with the program. if we miss anyone, our apologies. again, thank you everyone who is here tonight for your support and your continuing support. >> now we're going to move on to the ribbon cutting. across america, cities and towns, homes and businesses all depend upon one basic resource. modern civilization and life itself would be impossible without it. woman: okay, so today, we're going to look at how do we get our water? narrator: and today, it's
the asian coalition, the chinese christian union, the community partners, voters of san francisco and california, the students, the faculty, the hilton, financial district, chinatown community youth center, ccsf foundation and also the chinatown rotary club who have for the first time have given two scholarships to our students at the chinatown north beach campus. i am sure that we missed, there are so many people that have been supporting the chinatown north beach campus. it took a community...
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imagine san francisco with the highest performing large urban district in the state of california. our test scores and the last 11 years have done wonderful things. and we're very proud of the last two years. we know that this year we will get the same results. that is that we're actually closing the achievement gap for african-american, latino, and pacific islander students here. [applause] and that is really exciting and
imagine san francisco with the highest performing large urban district in the state of california. our test scores and the last 11 years have done wonderful things. and we're very proud of the last two years. we know that this year we will get the same results. that is that we're actually closing the achievement gap for african-american, latino, and pacific islander students here. [applause] and that is really exciting and
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one of the lowest per capita funding for students as a state and san francisco, within the state of california, and we're hard-pressed to make sure our schools are well funded. i believe whatever we can give to the school district is going to be
one of the lowest per capita funding for students as a state and san francisco, within the state of california, and we're hard-pressed to make sure our schools are well funded. i believe whatever we can give to the school district is going to be
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he fought for to get elected accountable, to progressive policies he crisscrossed this country from california to the carolinas to get elected to hold somebody accountable and put them there in the first place. in that last election of 2008, three presidential debate between mr. obama and mr. mccain, 4 or poverty does not come up onepoor or poverty doest come up one time in those debates. three presidential debates and no conversation about the poor or poverty in this country. fast-forward four years later and half of your citizenry is in or near poverty, we unapologetically assert that we cannot abide another campaign for the white house where the issue of the poor is not addressed. we can't go from here to november letting mr. obama and the presumptive republican nominee mr. romney get away with having another contest where the contestation of poor people's humanity is the order of the day. so we put this book out now. deliberately and unapologetically. we do our small part to remind the nation that we cannot render poor people invisible. we cannot treat them as an afterthought. in a preside
he fought for to get elected accountable, to progressive policies he crisscrossed this country from california to the carolinas to get elected to hold somebody accountable and put them there in the first place. in that last election of 2008, three presidential debate between mr. obama and mr. mccain, 4 or poverty does not come up onepoor or poverty doest come up one time in those debates. three presidential debates and no conversation about the poor or poverty in this country. fast-forward four...
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amtrak is extremely important to california. we have three of the top five busiest corridors in our california area. two of them are supported totally by the state. i see that there are some cuts coming through and i'm going to be looking at that very closely because it has a 2.8 million ridership. our state support services program as has been stated, vitality must be supported for the state-supported services program. incentivizing the states to work with passenger rail service to complement the national network. is important to all states, especially california, we are a donor states because gives more options to commuters and many intercity travelers while reducing pollution. california's been at the forefront of reduction of pollution and cars and several other areas and we continue to look for ways to be able to get people out of cars and into public transportation. the transportation commission are voicing their opinions -- talk to the transportation secretary brian kelly and rail to finish billbrad beyond keon how they v
amtrak is extremely important to california. we have three of the top five busiest corridors in our california area. two of them are supported totally by the state. i see that there are some cuts coming through and i'm going to be looking at that very closely because it has a 2.8 million ridership. our state support services program as has been stated, vitality must be supported for the state-supported services program. incentivizing the states to work with passenger rail service to complement...
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what happened in california isn't what happened to my people, so when you're looking at indian people, you have to look at historically where they are, what has happened to create the situation that they are in. in 1947, when we had the first opportunity to voice, it was about a treaty that had taken the indians from where we live, the creek and confederacy and move them to oklahoma, and we had managed not to go. we thought we would be recognized because we had to fight. it took ten years to prove to the federal government that they haven't killed us all. i have letters from my great grandfather you're either dead or removed. when you're looking at a process that is so rigid you have to meet every single criteria, and you have to meet it exactly, criteria "a" and criteria "b" and criteria c-1. you can't do that if you don't realize the differences that come in indian people, and that's the starting place. >> thank you. i guess i'm out of time. >> you can wait a round if you want to. the gentleman from american samoa. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and i want to commend you and the rankin
what happened in california isn't what happened to my people, so when you're looking at indian people, you have to look at historically where they are, what has happened to create the situation that they are in. in 1947, when we had the first opportunity to voice, it was about a treaty that had taken the indians from where we live, the creek and confederacy and move them to oklahoma, and we had managed not to go. we thought we would be recognized because we had to fight. it took ten years to...
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elected accountable, to progressive policies, just remember, that he chris crossed this country from california to carolinas to get him elected. who better to hold him accountable than in the first place. in the last election of 2008, three president issue debates between barack obama and mccain the word poor or poverty doesn't come up one time. obama doesn't ever races it. mccain never autoers it. the moderators never ask about. three president issue debates takes place at the moment our economy is tanking and there is no conversation about the poor, no conversation about poverty, in this country. you fast forward four years later, half of your citizensy is in or near poverty. we unapologetically aside that we can't abide another campaign for the white house where the issue of the poor in the country not addressed. we can't go from here to november letting barack obama and letting the republican nominee romney get away from having another con test or the contest asian of poor people's humidity is the order of the day. so we put this book out now, again, deliberately to do our small part to rem
elected accountable, to progressive policies, just remember, that he chris crossed this country from california to carolinas to get him elected. who better to hold him accountable than in the first place. in the last election of 2008, three president issue debates between barack obama and mccain the word poor or poverty doesn't come up one time. obama doesn't ever races it. mccain never autoers it. the moderators never ask about. three president issue debates takes place at the moment our...
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california and washington state, people who fled the area are allowed to go back home and see what was spared. >> wait until you see what we are working on tonight. saturday night where most shows dare not to go. >> tonight, spike lee like you never have seen him before. >> the kind of interview only don lemon can do. talking politics. >> i didn't drink the kool aid. >> we are not punks. >> and everything i need to say has been said. >> plus, afghan forces turning on americans. >> attempted to undermine the trust. >> ryan gets riled up. >> and you did build that! >> the hairpin turn gone terribly wrong. tonight on cnn. >> first tonight, born in atlanta and now an international star. spike lee fundamentally changed film making and in the process has become a leader in race relations and a cultural icon. he sits down with our don lemon and opens up from everything from president obama to racism. >> there people who say and i heard a number of people say this. i think they said it to a number of people, new racism is a denial of racism. >> there is an answer to that this question to wheth
california and washington state, people who fled the area are allowed to go back home and see what was spared. >> wait until you see what we are working on tonight. saturday night where most shows dare not to go. >> tonight, spike lee like you never have seen him before. >> the kind of interview only don lemon can do. talking politics. >> i didn't drink the kool aid. >> we are not punks. >> and everything i need to say has been said. >> plus, afghan...